{"id":1310,"date":"2008-09-19T01:43:59","date_gmt":"2008-09-18T23:43:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/2008\/09\/19\/muslime-und-evangelikale-als-herausforderung-der-sakularen-gesellschaft_1310"},"modified":"2008-09-19T01:43:59","modified_gmt":"2008-09-18T23:43:59","slug":"muslime-und-evangelikale-als-herausforderung-der-sakularen-gesellschaft","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/2008\/09\/19\/muslime-und-evangelikale-als-herausforderung-der-sakularen-gesellschaft_1310","title":{"rendered":"Muslime und Evangelikale als Herausforderung der s\u00e4kularen Gesellschaft"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Gestern habe ich folgenden Vortrag beim Goethe-Institut in New York gehalten (Marcia Pally, deren <a href=\"http:\/\/www.marciapally.com\/\">Buch<\/a> zum Thema sehr zu empfehlen ist, sprach \u00fcber die Evangelikalen in Amerika):<\/p>\n<p>\tLadies and Gentlemen,<br \/>\n\ta friend of mine who reports on Islam in Europe for the New York Times Magazine has a book coming out. Its title is: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.randomhouse.ca\/catalog\/display.pperl?isbn=9780385518260\"><em>Reflections on the Revolution in Europe<\/em><\/a>. Immigration, Islam and the West.\u00a0 Christopher Caldwell borrowed the title obviously from Edmund Burke\u2019s 1790 book Reflections on the Revolution in France. Is he overstating his case by using the term revolution?<br \/>\n\tHardly. There are major changes going on \u2013 in terms of demographics, culture and domestic as well as foreign policies of the European countries \u2013 and many of them relate to immigration.<br \/>\n\tAnd the most contentious thing about this situation is this: Religion is back to haunt the European public as a political challenge. Some of our most lively debates during the last years were about headscarfs in public schools and courtrooms, cartoons making fun of religious sensitivities, mosque-building-projects and so on. It would be an understatement to say that the Europeans have been taken by surprise. There is widespread anger, shock and resentment about the fact that the issue of religion in the public sphere is on the table once again. Had we not settled these problems once and for all?<\/p>\n<p>\tReligious belief was a private matter, we thought. Less and less people cared about religion anyhow, attended sunday service or listened to what the pope had to say. But with the Muslims there is a new and incresingly vocal group of pious people that wants to be taken serious, wants to find a place in the framework of church-state-relations \u2013 or maybe even challenge that very framework.<\/p>\n<p>\tThere is an analogy between evangelicals in the US and muslims in Europe: Both groups stand for the unresolved in the relation between religion and secular society. Both groups remind the majorities in the US and in Europe that our societies are not as secular as we tend to think they are.<br \/>\n\tEuropeans tend to put their light under a bushel, when asked about their religious affiliation. We tend to play our religion down. A good european is either non-religious or he does not make a public stance of it. In America, there is completely different attitude:<!--more--> American pollsters know that people here tend to exaggerate how often they attend sunday service. Why? Because being a believer makes you more trustworthy for your neighbor, not less, as is the case in Europe. That makes it much easier for people of all kinds of faith to blend in. Religion in America is generally regarded as an integrating factor, whereas in Europe religion out in the open (especially if it is not conform with the official majority religion) tends to be seen as a factor for disintegration. This of course is based not only on secularist ideology, but on a bloody historical experience with religious strife in Europe.<\/p>\n<p>\tBut: From this general outlook, a group of immigrants defined by their religion is a frightening thing in itself. Underlying this fear is a dubious concept though \u2013 the \u201eEuropean Muslim Community\u201c. I will say some words about it later.<br \/>\n\tBut I should begin by stating one major difference between the two topics of this evening\u2019s talk:<br \/>\n\tWhile evangelicals are objects <strong>and<\/strong> subjects of American politics at the same time (that is what the Palin candidacy stands for!) \u2013 muslims in Europe are in a quite different situation. They are \u2013 with very few but important exceptions \u2013 on the receiving end of European policies and political debates.<\/p>\n<p>\tEuropean political parties have only just begun to see muslim immigrants and their children as an interesting constituency. This of course relates to the fact that growing numbers of immigrants have become citizens of the European countries, and have begun to take part in elections.<br \/>\n\tBut it is not just that. In our debate about immigration and integration in Germany, a new consensus has formed. Across the political spectrum, citizenship and democratic participation are embraced more and more as means of integration. This is quite remarkable if you consider the anti-immigrant stance that German conservatives took for decades. But since they are in power in the Grand Coalition with the Social Democrats, they created a high ranking office for integration in the federal chancellery. They also created a task force to hold an \u201eIslam Summit\u201c and an \u201eIntegration Conference\u201c. And last not least they have begun to open the highest ranks of the party to people with strange sounding names. Emine Demirb\u00fcken-Wegner, born in Turkey, educated in Germany, married to a German conservative politician, is the first woman of turkish origin to be elected a member of the federal leadership council of the CDU.<br \/>\n\tThere is a handful of muslim MPs in the Bundestag, which is not enough, for sure. But you can expect to see more representation after next year\u2019s federal election. Things are moving slowly in the right direction. And Germany \u2013 this may come as a surprise \u2013 is the most progressive country in Europe in these matters. We do not have a relevant right-wing anti-immigrant movement like many other European countries \u2013 just think of Italy\u2019s Lega Nord, Austria\u2019s FP\u00d6, France\u2019s Front National, the Folkeparti in Denmark and so on.<\/p>\n<p>\tBoth major parties basically share the vision of integrating muslims by dragging them into the political process and into the framework of our church-state-relations. I am not saying that this consensus cannot be shattered \u2013 by a major terrorist attack for instance. But you have to admit that we have come a long way in the last ten years.<\/p>\n<p>\tSo much for the good news. We have to step back a little to see the possibility for a backlash that may be hidden in the progress that I just described.<br \/>\n\tAnd that possibility is incorporated in the very concept of \u201eEuropean Muslims\u201c. Another writer friend of mine, the arab journalist Hazem Saghieh &#8211; the editor of the London based arab daily <em>Al-Hayat<\/em> \u2013 put it this way:<br \/>\n\t<em>European countries are all worrying about their Muslim populations, but there is one reality they have failed to grasp: that they have played a part in creating the problem, in the form of \u201cMuslim communities\u201d, in the first place. The immigrants and their descendants who fall under this designation may have arrived as Pakistanis, Turks, Moroccans, Algerians, or Iraqis; it was only after they settled in the west that they were transformed into \u201cMuslim communities\u201d. Such communities are, to a certain extent, a \u201cvirtual reality\u201d that exists above all in the minds of western politicians, \u201cexperts\u201d and journalists \u2013 and, of course, in the minds of their supposed and self-appointed \u201cspokesmen\u201d.<\/em><br \/>\n\tWhat Hazem describes here is an often overlooked effect of our debates on immigration an integration. Let me give you an example: An iranian friend of mine, living in Germany for decades, has first-hand experience of it. He came to Germany as a left wing anti-Shah-regime activist. He has been a public intellectual in Germany for most of his life \u2013 moving from the far left of the 68 movement to a somewhat centrist position, all the time remaining a staunch secularist. An enemy of the Mullah-regime, he had to flee Iran for a second time after Chomeini\u2019s revolution. But lately, when he is invited to speak on tv about the iranian nuclear issue or the fate of iranian immigrants in Germany, he is presented as a \u201emoderate muslim voice\u201c.<br \/>\n\tThis is so strange: I doubt that he has seen the inside of a mosque since his thirteenth birthday (if ever). Nevertheless, he does not protest \u2013 knowing that, if he were not speaking under the label \u201emuslim\u201c \u2013 nobody would care to listen. And so it goes for all immigrants from muslim-majority-countries in Europe: wether Kurds or Turks, Sunni or Shia, Alevi or simply secular, Pakistani or Morrocan \u2013 in Europe they are quite simply seen as \u201emembers of the Muslim community\u201c.<\/p>\n<p>\tThis is a highly problematic concept: it overrides all the interesting cultural, ethnic, religious and political distinctions between the dozens of different communities that make up European muslims. And it forces even staunch atheists to pose as \u201emoderate Muslims\u201c if they want to be heard.<br \/>\n\tThis sweeping generalisation plays into the hands of those groups who thrive on the idea of a separatist muslim identity overruling all other affiliations \u2013 like the muslim brotherhood and its many offsprings.<\/p>\n<p>\tSo in fact European societies are producing more and more Muslims day by day by adopting this approach to their immigrant problem.<br \/>\n\tTake the German situation: It has become common sense that there are \u201e3 million muslims\u201c in Germany. How do we actually know this? There has not been a census in decades, so we cannot rely on statistical data. The German authorities \u2013 for lack of real data \u2013 just lumped together all the estimates about immigrants from muslim majority countries and their children and grandchildren, and these numbers add up to about 3 million people we now call \u201emuslims\u201c. That does not mean they attend friday prayers or even the occasional mosque, or eat halal food. We do know next to nothing reliable about their habits and beliefs. The various muslim organisations in Germany count only about an estimated 150.000 members. (Again, there are no official numbers.) You can imagine why their chairpersons nevertheless would like to be considered the legitimate voices of 3 million muslims. But most of the so-called muslims have never heard of these self-proclaimed spokespersons.<br \/>\n\tThis is what my friend Hazem, a secularist intellectual with lebanese roots, alludes to, when he writes:<br \/>\n\t<em>Institutions with the label \u201cMuslim\u201d have sprung up, as if expecting all these diverse peoples somehow to rally around them. Moreover, practical considerations help endorse the myth: from Bradford to Berlin, from Rotterdam to Rome, the faithful gather in multinational mosques, listening to sermons delivered by preachers speaking European languages.<br \/>\n\t&#8230;<br \/>\n\tThus we arrive at the paradox that secular countries may have \u201cinvented\u201d, or at least helped to foment, religious sects in their midst. They have done so through a form of blindness resulting from an essentialist view of the other. Even where they avoid this view at an earlier stage, it can affect their understanding later \u2013 for in battling against perceived dangers from ideological enemies in the Muslim world, these countries may also inadvertently adopt some aspects of their foes\u2019 worldview, and then apply these selfsame assumptions to their own Muslim citizens.<\/em><br \/>\n\tWhich is to say: In declaring the approximately 3 million immigrants from Muslim majority countries in Germany, France\u2019s 4 million, Englands 2 million to be simply European Muslims \u2013 we are absolutely in tune with the most conservative Muftis and Ayatollahs of the Middle East.<br \/>\n\tThey would obviously love to get a spiritual and political hold on those who left their countries to live in the West. They would like to control the way the Muslims live in Europe, they would love to guide them by way of fatwas and sermons in an unchartered territory. This is definitely not in our interest as european societies. And it is also not in the best interest of the faithful themselves, because they need spiritual guidance from Imams and Hodschas and Muftis who are grounded in the daily life of european cities, not out-of-touch-preachers way back in the old country.<br \/>\n\tThe prominence of the \u201emuslim issue\u201c in european political debates is at least in part due to the failure of our societies to include these immigrants under an overarching national identity that is at the same time inclusive, strong and tolerant vis \u00e0 vis cultural and religious differences.<\/p>\n<p>\tThe blame for this situation does not only go to one side of the equation. But still: The weakness and the narrowness of European national identities accounts for much of the problem. And here lies a dangerous possibility: An artificial European Muslim identity could become increasingly attractive for those immigrants who are not able to see themselves quite simply as German, French, British, or Danish muslims.<br \/>\n\tSo: Am I saying that there is no such thing as a muslim community \u2013 just like Margaret Thatcher quipped \u201ethere is no such thing as a society\u201c? No, but it is something rather hard to grip. The European muslim commity is very diverse, and it is in a state of transformation. Into what shape it will morph, depends largely on the attitude of the non-muslim environment.<br \/>\n\tA state of transformation for the Muslims of Europe means:<br \/>\n\t&#8211; they will have to face their own diversity and find a way of coping with it (intra-muslim-community-tolerance); there are no viable models for this back home or in the muslim tradition (just think of Sunni-Shia-bloodshed in Iraq)<br \/>\n\t&#8211; their leaders will have to make a decision about their future role: will they be advocates of the rights and needs of a religious group among others? Will they focus on the spiritual and mundane needs of this group here and now? Or will they continue to operate as a bridge to \u201ethe old country\u201c, its mores and customes, and its religious authorities?<br \/>\n\t&#8211; they will have to develop something for which there is no precedent \u2013 a muslim worldview, complete with a theology and a jurisprudence, for a situation of permanent minority status. Muslims never saw the need to adapt to such a situation (minority status for Muslims was always going to be transitory), although they have a rich history of thinking about other faiths as minorities. <strong>This<\/strong> is their greatest challenge for the years to come.<br \/>\n\tThese are some crucial requirements for the European majorities for the next years:<br \/>\n\t&#8211;\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Europe must change its attitude towards religion in the public sphere:<br \/>\n\tIn Europe, enlightenment, modernity, pluralism, democratic freedoms have been achieved in fighting back the grip of the church on public life. In America, churches were part of the struggle for these very values. The freedom of religious worhsip is one of the core freedoms. Americans understand that. But Europeans sometimes have a hard time to see this. Many of them are quick to give it up when confronted with a form of religious belief that is not mainstream \u2013 meaning middle-of-the-road-christianity. This shows in many of the controversies about the headscarf or mosque-projects in European cities.<\/p>\n<p>\t&#8211; Europeans will have to live with more religious diversity. Either we will find a way to open the system of state churches (Denmark, Great Britain) and quasi-state-churches (Germany) to other religions, or we will have to disestablish the churches and adopt radical secularism (which is not a very likely solution).<br \/>\n\t&#8211; Is see a three-step-program ahead of us:<br \/>\n\t1) isolate the fanatics and be wary of those who want to islamicize public space by imposing their restrictions to everybody<br \/>\n\t2) accept nothing but full loyalty to the constitution (no room for sharia as a separate source of the law)<br \/>\n\t3) treat the religious beliefs and rituals of Muslims with equal respect,\u00a0 even if &#8211; and maybe especially so &#8211; they do not conform to the liberal mainstream of society.<br \/>\n\tWe are not going to see \u201eEurabia\u201c \u2013 an islamicized Europe that haunts many conservative commentators. But we are also not going to see all Muslims blending into the wider public\u2019s attitude towards gender equality, homosexuality, individualism and moderate dress codes. We might even see a significant group rather stressing the distinctions between Muslims and their environment. I am convinced, they will not be the majority. Even so, Europe has to embrace this as a legitimate expression of religious freedom.<\/p>\n<p>\tAnd it is in this respect that America has a lot to teach us.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Gestern habe ich folgenden Vortrag beim Goethe-Institut in New York gehalten (Marcia Pally, deren Buch zum Thema sehr zu empfehlen ist, sprach \u00fcber die Evangelikalen in Amerika): Ladies and Gentlemen, a friend of mine who reports on Islam in Europe for the New York Times Magazine has a book coming out. 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