{"id":5044,"date":"2011-08-23T12:05:24","date_gmt":"2011-08-23T10:05:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/?p=5044"},"modified":"2011-08-23T12:05:24","modified_gmt":"2011-08-23T10:05:24","slug":"was-libyenkrieg-und-irakintervention-unterscheidet","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/2011\/08\/23\/was-libyenkrieg-und-irakintervention-unterscheidet_5044","title":{"rendered":"Was Libyenkrieg und Irakintervention unterscheidet"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Marc Lynch erkl\u00e4rt in seinem <a href=\"http:\/\/lynch.foreignpolicy.com\/posts\/2011\/08\/22\/libya_inspires_the_arabs\">Blog auf Foreign Policy<\/a>, warum es falsch war und ist, mit der Erfahrung des Irakkrieges gegen die Nato-Intervention in Libyen zu sein. Ich kann nur hoffen, dass in der deutschen Regierung solche Quellen gelesen werden. Denn es ist offensichtlich, dass die Deutschen bei ihrer Enthaltung voll in die Irak-Falle gelaufen sind. Merkel hatte einst in der Washington Post Schr\u00f6der f\u00fcr seine Zur\u00fcckhaltung gegen\u00fcber den amerikanischen Invasionspl\u00e4nen kritisiert, nun wollte sie offenbar selber ihre Unabh\u00e4ngigkeit von Amerika demonstrieren.<\/p>\n<p>Nie wieder Truppen f\u00fcr ein humanit\u00e4res Abenteuer in der arabisch-islamischen Welt, das war ihre (falsche) Schlussfolgerung aus dem Fehler, Bush gegen Schr\u00f6der unterst\u00fctzt zu haben:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The Arab public embraced the Libyan uprising in February, which began less than a week after Mubarak&#8217;s fall. They saw the Libyan revolution as part of their own common story of peaceful,  popular challenges to entrenched authoritarian rule. They watched in  horror as Qaddafi responded with brutal military force, and as his  forces advanced on Benghazi they desperately called for the world to  help.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>I heard a lot of skepticism about this Arab demonstration effect after  the NATO  intervention began. Skeptics pointed out, quite correctly, that the  regimes in Bahrain, Yemen, and Syria seemed undeterred by the NATO show  of force. But they generally ignored, or just didn&#8217;t care about, the  <strong>overwhelmingly positive response at the time in most of the Arab public<\/strong>.  The Arab public, watching the battle unfold on al-Jazeera and online,  understood that a massacre had been prevented by the intervention.<\/p>\n<p>A significant portion of American and Western commentators were quick to  assume <strong>that Arabs would view the Libya intervention through the lens of  Iraq<\/strong>. I assumed that too, at first. But the debate that I saw unfold in  the actual Arab public sphere was entirely different and forced me to  change my mind. <strong>While there were certainly Arab voices warning of  imperialism and oil seizures and Israeli conspiracies, the overwhelming  majority actively demanded Western intervention to protect the Libyan  people and their revolution.<\/strong> The urgency of preventing the coming  massacre mattered more to them, and despite all the legacies of\u00a0 Iraq  they demanded that the United States and the international community  take on that responsibility.<\/p>\n<p>As for the demonstration effect on regimes, it is worth recalling that  both Syria and Yemen saw significant escalations at exactly that moment  which hardly seem a coincidence. The Syrian uprising really began to  take root after the regime&#8217;s heavy handed response to rising protests in  Deraa on March 18.\u00a0 Its violence in Deraa set in motion the cycle of  repression and mobilization, which has  brought hundreds of thousands of Syrians into the streets and turned  Assad&#8217;s regime into an international pariah. The repertoire of  escalating international condemnation, targeted sanctions, and  International Criminal Court referrals now being deployed against  Assad&#8217;s regime debuted in Libya.<\/p>\n<p>March 18 was also Yemen&#8217;s &#8222;Bloody Friday,&#8220; when\u00a0 Ali Abdullah Saleh&#8217;s  forces opened fire on a large demonstration at  Sanaa University. Over the following days,  massive protests erupted across the country, al-Jazeera broke away from  its wall to wall Libya  coverage to focus on Yemen, and the defection of  Major General Ali Muhsin and a host of government officials, ruling  party members, and military officers made it appear that the regime&#8217;s end was  near. Saleh refused to step down and Yemen descended into the grinding  political stalemate it&#8217;s in today. But that shouldn&#8217;t make us forget how close Yemen was to real  change in those weeks. Perhaps now there will be one final chance to  push toward closure in Yemen before Saleh returns.<\/p>\n<p>Libya lost its central place in the Arab public sphere as the war  dragged on. Even if al-Jazeera continued to cover the war heavily, the  agenda fragmented and darkened. Arab attention was consumed by new  setbacks and stalemates, from the brutal repression in Bahrain to the  incomprehensible stalemate in Yemen, to the escalating brutality in  Syria. But over the last two days, Arab attention refocused on Libya.  Arabs from Yemen, to Syria, to Morocco experienced Qaddafi&#8217;s fall as  part  of their own story.\u00a0And they are clearly inspired, galvanized and  energized.<\/p>\n<p>Arab activists across the region will now likely try to jump-start  protest movements which had lost momentum. Some will succeed, others  won&#8217;t. (&#8230;)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Marc Lynch erkl\u00e4rt in seinem Blog auf Foreign Policy, warum es falsch war und ist, mit der Erfahrung des Irakkrieges gegen die Nato-Intervention in Libyen zu sein. Ich kann nur hoffen, dass in der deutschen Regierung solche Quellen gelesen werden. 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