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In einem erfrischend offenherzigen und meinungsfreudigen Interview sagt Edward Luttwak<\/a> etwas Interessantes \u00fcber das Russlands Problem mit Putins F\u00fchrerschaft. Vielleicht ist, was Luttwak hier beschreibt, noch entscheidender als das demokratische Defizit Russlands, das sich derzeit durch die manipulierten Wahlen so krass dokumentiert. (Vielleicht ist es auch der Kern dieses demokratischen Defizits.) Was mich im Vergleich interessieren w\u00fcrde: Wie erkl\u00e4rt sich in dem autorit\u00e4ren System Chinas die gr\u00f6\u00dfere Kreativit\u00e4t der B\u00fcrokratie, die das Land vom Entwicklungsland zum Wirtschaftsriesen gemacht hat?<\/p>\n

David Samuels: I would start with the moment when George W. Bush met Vladimir Putin and said, \u201cI looked into his eyes and saw this was a man I could really trust.\u201d So, my thesis is this: If you\u2019re Vladimir Putin, and you rise to the top of this chaotic and brutal society after going through the KGB, you must be some kind of strategic genius with amazing survival skills, because the penalty for failure may be torture or death. This kind of Darwinian set-up exists in many countries around the world. What does it mean to be head of the security services in Egypt? It means that you had to betray your friends but only at the right time, and you had to survive many vicious predators who would have loved to kill you or torture you, or otherwise derail your career. By the time you become Vladimir Putin or Omar Suleiman, your ability to think ahead and analyze threats has been adequately tested. <\/strong><\/p>\n

By contrast, what does it take to become a U.S. Senator? You have to eat rubber chicken dinners, you have to impress some rich people who are generally pretty stupid about politics, and smile in TV commercials. The penalties for failure are hardly so dire. And so, American leadership generally sucks, and America is perennially in the position of being the sucker in the global poker game. That\u2019s the thesis. So, tell me why it\u2019s wrong.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Edward Luttwak: Even if your analysis is totally correct, your conclusion is wrong. Think about what it means to work for a Putin, whose natural approach to any problem is deception. For example, he had an affair with this athlete, a gymnast, and he went through two phases. Phase one: He concealed it from his wife. Phase two: He launched a public campaign showing himself to be a macho man. He had photographs of him shooting a rifle, and as a Judo champion, and therefore had the news leaked that he was having an affair. Not only an affair with a young woman, but a gymnast, an athlete. Obviously such a person is much more wily and cunning and able to handle conflict than his American counterpart. But when such a person is the head of a department, the whole department is actually paralyzed and they are all reduced to serfs and valets. Therefore, what gets applied to a problem is only the wisdom of the aforementioned wily head of the department. All the other talent is wasted, all the other knowledge is wasted.<\/p>\n

Now you have a choice: You can have a non-wily head of a department and the collective knowledge and wisdom of the whole department, or else you can have a wily head and zero functioning. And that is how the Russian government is currently working. Putin and Medvedev have very little control of the Russian bureaucracy. When you want to deal with them, and I dealt with them this morning, they act in very uncooperative, cagey, and deceptive ways because they are first of all trying to protect their security and stability and benefits from their boss. They have to deceive you because they are deceiving their boss before he even shows up to work. And they are all running little games. So, that\u2019s the alternative. You can have a wily Putin and a stupid government. Or an intelligent government and an innocent head. There\u2019s always is a trade-off. A Putin cannot be an inspiring leader.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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