{"id":662,"date":"2007-08-06T14:38:35","date_gmt":"2007-08-06T12:38:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/2007\/08\/06\/irakkriegsbefurworter-ignatieff-wie-konnte-ich-so-daneben-liegen_662"},"modified":"2007-08-06T14:38:35","modified_gmt":"2007-08-06T12:38:35","slug":"irakkriegsbefurworter-ignatieff-wie-konnte-ich-so-daneben-liegen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/2007\/08\/06\/irakkriegsbefurworter-ignatieff-wie-konnte-ich-so-daneben-liegen_662","title":{"rendered":"Irakkriegsbef\u00fcrworter Ignatieff: Wie konnte ich so daneben liegen?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Michael_Ignatieff\">Michael Ignatieff<\/a>, der kanadische Historiker, Essayist und (neuerdings) Politiker, geht angesichts des Desasters in Irak in sich und fragt sich in einem traurigen und sch\u00f6nen Text, wie er &#8211; als Kriegsbef\u00fcrworter &#8211; so schief liegen konnte. Der ganze Text im <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2007\/08\/05\/magazine\/05iraq-t.html?ei=5087%0A&#038;em=&#038;en=6431fa22ce8ef61c&#038;ex=1186545600&#038;pagewanted=print\">New York Times Magazine<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p>&#8222;We might test judgment by asking, on the issue of Iraq, who best anticipated how events turned out. But many of those who correctly anticipated catastrophe did so not by exercising judgment but by indulging in ideology. They opposed the invasion because they believed the president was only after the oil or because they believed America is always and in every situation wrong.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" id=\"image661\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/files\/2007\/08\/mi_nom_1.jpg\" alt=\"mi_nom_1.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p><em>Der Intellektuelle im Wahlkampf: Ignatieff in Ontario <\/em>  Foto: Ignatieff Campaign<\/p>\n<p>The people who truly showed good judgment on Iraq predicted the consequences that actually ensued but also rightly evaluated the motives that led to the action. They did not necessarily possess more knowledge than the rest of us. They labored, as everyone did, with the same faulty intelligence and lack of knowledge of Iraq\u2019s fissured sectarian history. What they didn\u2019t do was take wishes for reality. They didn\u2019t suppose, as President Bush did, that because they believed in the integrity of their own motives everyone else in the region would believe in it, too. They didn\u2019t suppose that a free state could arise on the foundations of 35 years of police terror. They didn\u2019t suppose that America had the power to shape political outcomes in a faraway country of which most Americans knew little. They didn\u2019t believe that because America defended human rights and freedom in Bosnia and Kosovo it had to be doing so in Iraq. They avoided all these mistakes.<\/p>\n<p>I made some of these mistakes and then a few of my own. (&#8230;)&#8220;<\/p>\n<p>p.s.: In eigener Sache: Ignatieff sagt in seinem Text auch, er werde nicht mehr den Fehler machen, sich von verfolgten Menschen, mit denen er sympathisiert, agitieren zu lassen. Das bezieht sich auf die irakische Opposition im Exil, die f\u00fcr den Sturz Saddams geworben hatte.<br \/>\nAuch ich habe mich von den Argumenten der Exilanten beeindrucken lassen. Ich habe vor dem Krieg ein grosses Interview mit Kanan Makiya gef\u00fchrt, dem Autor von <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.de\/Republic-Fear-Politics-Modern-Iraq\/dp\/0520214390\/ref=sr_1_7\/302-1875265-7705623?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books-intl-de&#038;qid=1186404789&#038;sr=8-7\">&#8222;Republic of Fear&#8220;<\/a> dessen Engagement mich sehr f\u00fcr die Sache der Demokratisierung des Irak eingenommen hat. Mein Interview mit ihm ist <a href=\"http:\/\/www.zeit.de\/2002\/44\/Friede_den_Huetten_Krieg_den_Palaesten\">hier<\/a> nachzulesen. Zum Gl\u00fcck ist meinen skeptischen Fragen nicht anzusehen, wie sehr auch ich damals schief gelegen habe mit meinen Hoffnungen, f\u00fcr die andere den Preis bezahlen.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Michael Ignatieff, der kanadische Historiker, Essayist und (neuerdings) Politiker, geht angesichts des Desasters in Irak in sich und fragt sich in einem traurigen und sch\u00f6nen Text, wie er &#8211; als Kriegsbef\u00fcrworter &#8211; so schief liegen konnte. Der ganze Text im New York Times Magazine: &#8222;We might test judgment by asking, on the issue of Iraq, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":54,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[152,155,165],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-662","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-aussenpolitik","category-debatte","category-irak"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.0 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Irakkriegsbef\u00fcrworter Ignatieff: Wie konnte ich so daneben liegen? - J\u00f6rg Lau<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/2007\/08\/06\/irakkriegsbefurworter-ignatieff-wie-konnte-ich-so-daneben-liegen_662\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"de_DE\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Irakkriegsbef\u00fcrworter Ignatieff: Wie konnte ich so daneben liegen? - J\u00f6rg Lau\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Michael Ignatieff, der kanadische Historiker, Essayist und (neuerdings) Politiker, geht angesichts des Desasters in Irak in sich und fragt sich in einem traurigen und sch\u00f6nen Text, wie er &#8211; als Kriegsbef\u00fcrworter &#8211; so schief liegen konnte. Der ganze Text im New York Times Magazine: &#8222;We might test judgment by asking, on the issue of Iraq, [&hellip;]\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/2007\/08\/06\/irakkriegsbefurworter-ignatieff-wie-konnte-ich-so-daneben-liegen_662\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"J\u00f6rg Lau\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2007-08-06T12:38:35+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/files\/2007\/08\/mi_nom_1.jpg\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"J\u00f6rg Lau\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Geschrieben von\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"J\u00f6rg Lau\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Gesch\u00e4tzte Lesezeit\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"2\u00a0Minuten\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/2007\/08\/06\/irakkriegsbefurworter-ignatieff-wie-konnte-ich-so-daneben-liegen_662\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/2007\/08\/06\/irakkriegsbefurworter-ignatieff-wie-konnte-ich-so-daneben-liegen_662\",\"name\":\"Irakkriegsbef\u00fcrworter Ignatieff: Wie konnte ich so daneben liegen? - J\u00f6rg Lau\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/#website\"},\"datePublished\":\"2007-08-06T12:38:35+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2007-08-06T12:38:35+00:00\",\"author\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/#\/schema\/person\/55f0be9bfac24815791fbc852b042f57\"},\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/2007\/08\/06\/irakkriegsbefurworter-ignatieff-wie-konnte-ich-so-daneben-liegen_662#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"de\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/2007\/08\/06\/irakkriegsbefurworter-ignatieff-wie-konnte-ich-so-daneben-liegen_662\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/2007\/08\/06\/irakkriegsbefurworter-ignatieff-wie-konnte-ich-so-daneben-liegen_662#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Startseite\",\"item\":\"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"Irakkriegsbef\u00fcrworter Ignatieff: Wie konnte ich so daneben liegen?\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/\",\"name\":\"J\u00f6rg Lau\",\"description\":\"Ein Blog \u00fcber Religion und Politik\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":\"required name=search_term_string\"}],\"inLanguage\":\"de\"},{\"@type\":\"Person\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/#\/schema\/person\/55f0be9bfac24815791fbc852b042f57\",\"name\":\"J\u00f6rg Lau\",\"image\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"de\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/a5fe39bf4f5335b8bac36eefa0b41467221b1598bfea5f05159a0199e391eed0?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/a5fe39bf4f5335b8bac36eefa0b41467221b1598bfea5f05159a0199e391eed0?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"caption\":\"J\u00f6rg Lau\"},\"url\":\"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/author\/joerg-lau\"}]}<\/script>\n<!-- \/ Yoast SEO plugin. -->","yoast_head_json":{"title":"Irakkriegsbef\u00fcrworter Ignatieff: Wie konnte ich so daneben liegen? - J\u00f6rg Lau","robots":{"index":"index","follow":"follow","max-snippet":"max-snippet:-1","max-image-preview":"max-image-preview:large","max-video-preview":"max-video-preview:-1"},"canonical":"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/2007\/08\/06\/irakkriegsbefurworter-ignatieff-wie-konnte-ich-so-daneben-liegen_662","og_locale":"de_DE","og_type":"article","og_title":"Irakkriegsbef\u00fcrworter Ignatieff: Wie konnte ich so daneben liegen? - J\u00f6rg Lau","og_description":"Michael Ignatieff, der kanadische Historiker, Essayist und (neuerdings) Politiker, geht angesichts des Desasters in Irak in sich und fragt sich in einem traurigen und sch\u00f6nen Text, wie er &#8211; als Kriegsbef\u00fcrworter &#8211; so schief liegen konnte. Der ganze Text im New York Times Magazine: &#8222;We might test judgment by asking, on the issue of Iraq, [&hellip;]","og_url":"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/2007\/08\/06\/irakkriegsbefurworter-ignatieff-wie-konnte-ich-so-daneben-liegen_662","og_site_name":"J\u00f6rg Lau","article_published_time":"2007-08-06T12:38:35+00:00","og_image":[{"url":"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/files\/2007\/08\/mi_nom_1.jpg"}],"author":"J\u00f6rg Lau","twitter_card":"summary_large_image","twitter_misc":{"Geschrieben von":"J\u00f6rg Lau","Gesch\u00e4tzte Lesezeit":"2\u00a0Minuten"},"schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/2007\/08\/06\/irakkriegsbefurworter-ignatieff-wie-konnte-ich-so-daneben-liegen_662","url":"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/2007\/08\/06\/irakkriegsbefurworter-ignatieff-wie-konnte-ich-so-daneben-liegen_662","name":"Irakkriegsbef\u00fcrworter Ignatieff: Wie konnte ich so daneben liegen? - J\u00f6rg Lau","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/#website"},"datePublished":"2007-08-06T12:38:35+00:00","dateModified":"2007-08-06T12:38:35+00:00","author":{"@id":"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/#\/schema\/person\/55f0be9bfac24815791fbc852b042f57"},"breadcrumb":{"@id":"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/2007\/08\/06\/irakkriegsbefurworter-ignatieff-wie-konnte-ich-so-daneben-liegen_662#breadcrumb"},"inLanguage":"de","potentialAction":[{"@type":"ReadAction","target":["https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/2007\/08\/06\/irakkriegsbefurworter-ignatieff-wie-konnte-ich-so-daneben-liegen_662"]}]},{"@type":"BreadcrumbList","@id":"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/2007\/08\/06\/irakkriegsbefurworter-ignatieff-wie-konnte-ich-so-daneben-liegen_662#breadcrumb","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"name":"Startseite","item":"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"name":"Irakkriegsbef\u00fcrworter Ignatieff: Wie konnte ich so daneben liegen?"}]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/#website","url":"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/","name":"J\u00f6rg Lau","description":"Ein Blog \u00fcber Religion und Politik","potentialAction":[{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/?s={search_term_string}"},"query-input":"required name=search_term_string"}],"inLanguage":"de"},{"@type":"Person","@id":"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/#\/schema\/person\/55f0be9bfac24815791fbc852b042f57","name":"J\u00f6rg Lau","image":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"de","@id":"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/","url":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/a5fe39bf4f5335b8bac36eefa0b41467221b1598bfea5f05159a0199e391eed0?s=96&d=mm&r=g","contentUrl":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/a5fe39bf4f5335b8bac36eefa0b41467221b1598bfea5f05159a0199e391eed0?s=96&d=mm&r=g","caption":"J\u00f6rg Lau"},"url":"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/author\/joerg-lau"}]}},"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pG02W-aG","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/662","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/54"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=662"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/662\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=662"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=662"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=662"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}