{"id":691,"date":"2007-08-27T17:28:28","date_gmt":"2007-08-27T15:28:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/2007\/08\/27\/darf-man-in-brussel-gegen-islamisierung-demonstrieren_691"},"modified":"2007-08-27T17:28:28","modified_gmt":"2007-08-27T15:28:28","slug":"darf-man-in-brussel-gegen-islamisierung-demonstrieren","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/2007\/08\/27\/darf-man-in-brussel-gegen-islamisierung-demonstrieren_691","title":{"rendered":"Darf man in Br\u00fcssel gegen die „Islamisierung Europas“ demonstrieren?"},"content":{"rendered":"

Morgen wird in Br\u00fcssel ein Gerichtsbeschluss \u00fcber eine islamkritische Demo erwartet, die der B\u00fcrgermeister Freddy Thielemans verboten hat.
\nThielemans hat Sicherheitsbedenken gegen die zum 11. September angemeldete Demo angef\u00fchrt. Nicht etwa, dass er die Veranstalter (SIOE<\/a> – Stop the Islamization of Europe) und die Demonstranten selbst f\u00fcr gef\u00e4hrlich h\u00e4lt. Er glaube vielmehr, sagte er, sie k\u00f6nnten mit ihrer Demo gegen die „Islamisierung Europas“ Gegenreaktionen provozieren.
\nDiesen Vorgang in der europ\u00e4ischen Hauptstadt kommentiert heute Daniel Schwammenthal im „Wall Street Journal<\/a>„.
\nIch finde Schwammenthals Kommentar korrekt, auch wenn ich die Veranstalter<\/a> und ihre Unterst\u00fctzer f\u00fcr eine Horde von ziemlich zwielichtigen Anti-Islam-Hysterikern halte, darunter etwa von deutscher Seite der bekannte Herr Ulfkotte mit seinem „Pax Europa“-Verein.
\nHier Kernzitate aus Schwammenthals Kommentar:<\/p>\n

„Yet you don\u2019t have to sympathize with the speakers to believe in free speech. Beyond that, banning the protest partly out of fear of violent reactions from Muslims would seem to bolster the protesters\u2019 point. If Muslim radicals decide the level of debate about Islam in Europe, doesn\u2019t it show that \u201cIslamization,\u201d the erosion of traditional European liberties, is a reality? Mr. Thielemans did not address that irony. He said instead that he\u2019s not only worried about Muslims reacting violently to a SIOE march. \u201cA number of democrats announced that they\u2019d react too,\u201d he said, along with \u201cNGOs that are in favor of peace and integration.\u201d It\u2019s difficult to see how people who threaten to disrupt a demonstration can be called \u201cdemocrats\u201d or \u201cin favor of peace.\u201d Pressed on the point that the organizers should not be limited in their democratic rights due to what their opponents might do, Mr. Thielemans eventually agreed. In fact, if the counterprotesters were his only worry, he said, he\u2019d probably let the demonstration go ahead. What really concerns him, the mayor said, is the possibility of violent racists infiltrating the protest, mingling among peaceful demonstrators and provoking and attacking foreigners. The mayor says that police have discovered extremist Web sites calling on their followers to join the protest and cause trouble.<\/p>\n

Unfortunately, many demonstrations contain the possibility of turning violent and some in the end do so. It is the job of the police to nip such violence in the bud and arrest troublemakers. The pre-emptive strike of banning the entire protest seems justified only if the threat to public safety is significant.<\/p>\n

…<\/p>\n

Of course, the mayor is responsible for public security. If a controversial demonstration that he approved a permit for were to turn violent, he would be held responsible.<\/p>\n

Yet freedom of speech, particularly controversial speech, is also a treasured good in a democracy. In this instance, moreover, any immediate threat to public security perhaps should be weighed against a potential long-term threat to peace. Among other things, banning the SIOE demonstration will embolden Muslim radicals by suggesting that violence, or the fear of it, is the way to manipulate freedom lovers. Arguably, a ban may also undermine faith among ordinary people that their concerns about radical Islam can be voiced, and addressed, in a democratic fashion. Perhaps the court will consider this at tomorrow\u2019s hearing.“<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Das ist sehr richtig: Der B\u00fcrgermeister und seine Sicherheitskr\u00e4fte sind daf\u00fcr zust\u00e4ndig, eine friedliche Demonstration auch (und gerade) zu kontroversen Themen zu erm\u00f6glichen. Gegen die „Islamisierung“ Europas zu protestieren, muss m\u00f6glich sein, und nat\u00fcrlich auch mitten in der europ\u00e4ischen Hauptstadt.<\/p>\n

Ich w\u00fcrde zu dieser Demo allerdings nicht gehen. Mit Leuten, die so f\u00fcr sich werben, m\u00f6chte ich nichts zu tun haben:<\/p>\n

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