{"id":827,"date":"2007-10-11T14:16:43","date_gmt":"2007-10-11T12:16:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/2007\/10\/11\/ayaan-hirsi-ali-bush-ist-zu-soft-mit-dem-islam_827"},"modified":"2007-10-11T14:16:43","modified_gmt":"2007-10-11T12:16:43","slug":"ayaan-hirsi-ali-bush-ist-zu-soft-mit-dem-islam","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.zeit.de\/joerglau\/2007\/10\/11\/ayaan-hirsi-ali-bush-ist-zu-soft-mit-dem-islam_827","title":{"rendered":"Ayaan Hirsi Ali: Bush ist zu soft mit dem Islam"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>W\u00e4hrend ich Ayaan Hirsi Alis Recht auf Schutz durch den niederl\u00e4ndischen Staat &#8211; oder meinetwegen durch die EU &#8211; verteidige, finde ich ihre Kriegsrhetorik zunehmend bedenklich. Hier das j\u00fcngste Beispiel aus einem langen interview mit der libert\u00e4ren Zeitschrift <a href=\"http:\/\/www.reason.com\/news\/show\/122457.html\">&#8222;Reason&#8220;<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Reason: Should we acknowledge that organized religion has sometimes sparked precisely the kinds of emancipation movements that could lift Islam into modern times? Slavery in the United States ended in part because of opposition by prominent church members and the communities they galvanized. The Polish Catholic Church helped defeat the Jaruzelski puppet regime. Do you think Islam could bring about similar social and political changes?<\/p>\n<p>Hirsi Ali: Only if <strong>Islam is defeated<\/strong>. Because right now, the political side of Islam, the power-hungry expansionist side of Islam, has become superior to the Sufis and the Ismailis and the peace-seeking Muslims.<\/p>\n<p>Reason: Don\u2019t you mean defeating radical Islam?<\/p>\n<p>Hirsi Ali: No. Islam, period. Once it\u2019s defeated, it can mutate into something peaceful. It\u2019s very difficult to even talk about peace now. They\u2019re not interested in peace.<\/p>\n<p>Reason: We have to crush the world\u2019s 1.5 billion Muslims under our boot? In concrete terms, what does that mean, \u201cdefeat Islam\u201d?<\/p>\n<p>Hirsi Ali: I think that we are <strong>at war with Islam<\/strong>. And there\u2019s no middle ground in wars. Islam can be defeated in many ways. For starters, you stop the spread of the ideology itself; at present, there are native Westerners converting to Islam, and they\u2019re the most fanatical sometimes. There is infiltration of Islam in the schools and universities of the West. You stop that. You stop the symbol burning and the effigy burning, and you look them in the eye and flex your muscles and you say, \u201cThis is a warning. We won\u2019t accept this anymore.\u201d There comes a moment when you crush your enemy.<\/p>\n<p>Reason: Militarily?<\/p>\n<p>Hirsi Ali: In all forms, and if you don\u2019t do that, then you have to live with the consequence of being crushed.<\/p>\n<p>Reason: Are we really heading toward anything so ominous?<\/p>\n<p>Hirsi Ali: I think that\u2019s where we\u2019re heading. We\u2019re heading there because the West has been in denial for a long time. It did not respond to the signals that were smaller and easier to take care of. Now we have some choices to make. This is a dilemma: Western civilization is a celebration of life\u2014everybody\u2019s life, even your enemy\u2019s life. So how can you be true to that morality and at the same time defend yourself against a very powerful enemy that seeks to destroy you?<\/p>\n<p>Reason: George Bush, not the most conciliatory person in the world, has said on plenty of occasions that we are not at war with Islam.<\/p>\n<p>Hirsi Ali: If the most powerful man in the West talks like that, then, without intending to, he\u2019s making radical Muslims think they\u2019ve already won. <strong>There is no moderate Islam.<\/strong> There are Muslims who are passive, who don\u2019t all follow the rules of Islam, but there\u2019s really only one Islam, defined as submission to the will of God. There\u2019s nothing moderate about it.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>W\u00e4hrend ich Ayaan Hirsi Alis Recht auf Schutz durch den niederl\u00e4ndischen Staat &#8211; oder meinetwegen durch die EU &#8211; verteidige, finde ich ihre Kriegsrhetorik zunehmend bedenklich. 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